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Use a “Fake” Location to Get Cheaper Plane Tickets

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I can’t explain airline pricing but I do know some plane tickets can be cheaper depending on where you buy them or, even better, where you appear to buy them from. This is all about leveraging foreign currencies and points-of-sale to your advantage.

For reasons I never quite understood, every time I tried to book a domestic flight in another country, the prices were always exorbitant. But, say, once I was in Bangkok, that same flight that was once $300 would fall to $30 almost inexplicably. This phenomenon is because a ticket’s point-of-sale—the place where a retail transaction is completed—can affect the price of any flight with an international component.

Most people don’t know there is a simple trick for “changing” this to get a cheaper flight on an airline’s website; it’s how I managed to pay $371 for a flight from New York to Colombia instead of $500+. Though it can be used for normal international flights, it often works best when you’re buying domestic flights in another country. (Point in case: A Chilean friend once told me Easter Island flights were much cheaper to buy in Santiago instead of abroad.)

To demonstrate how this scheme works, we ran a one-way search from Cartagena to Bogotá—two cities in Colombia—for June 17 on Google ITA, Kayak and Skyscanner. To keep things simple, I’ll ignore a VivaColombia flight that Skyscanner found because Google ITA and Kayak do not include smaller airlines in their searches. Instead, we’ll be comparing two large airlines that fly this route, LAN Airlines and Avianca.

Unsurprisingly, Kayak takes a U.S.-centric approach. Going the path of least resistance, a Kayak search shows that the cheapest flight on LAN is $116 and the cheapest flight on Avianca is $137. If we run this exact search in Google ITA with New York City as the point-of-sale, we see those exact numbers. Skyscanner returns similar results: the cheapest flight on LAN is $114 and on Avianca it is $136.

Where to change point-of-sale in Google ITA.

Where to change point-of-sale in Google ITA.

Though Skyscanner actually has the best prices, let’s not stop there. Instead of using an American city as the point-of-sale, let’s use Colombia as the point-of-sale, something that can only be searched for in Google ITA. You actually don’t have to tweak a thing because the departure city is usually set as the default for this option — that said, it’s possible to change this to any place in the world you want. The main difference is we’ll get the price in Colombian pesos and that’s *exactly* what we want.

Prices shown in Colombian pesos.

Prices shown in Colombian pesos.

In this new search, the cheapest flight on Avianca is 116,280 COP and the cheapest flight on LAN is 173,820 COP. That of course means a lot of mumbo jumbo to most people, so let’s convert that over to U.S. dollars. The same Avianca flight now approximates to $61.59 while the LAN flight is $91.96. In short, you’d be saving $22.04 on the LAN flight and $74.41 on the Avianca flight by simply paying in a different currency. The price difference between the cheapest flight in both the U.S. and Colombia search is $54.41. That’s how much you’ll end up saving just by comparing the flights in different currencies.

Where to select a different point-of-sale on the Avianca site.

Where to select a different point-of-sale on the Avianca site.

Now the real problem is that we’ve got to find a place to buy this ticket in pesos since Google ITA won’t tell us where to go for that. I head directly to the Avianca website, which brings us to the U.S. price—about $137—for the flight. That’s not what I want though. I start again, but this time I click on the upper right-hand corner and select Colombia as my country and English as my language. (Other airlines may not always offer the ability to keep using the site in English. How good is your Spanish?) It’s not using the same thing as a VPN, but this mimics the idea that you are buying from a different location other than the U.S.

I search again. Sometimes I’m not always able to get the same exact fare I see in Google ITA, but I almost always manage to get something cheaper than what Kayak calculated for me. In this case, the cheapest flight available is 136,000 COP or $72.14, a bit more than what I was told but still less than Kayak’s price. To save the most money, make sure you pay in a credit card that doesn’t charge foreign transaction fees. In total, I manage to get a flight about $43.86 cheaper than what any U.S. site quoted me.

Actual price shown on the Avianca site.

Actual price shown on the Avianca site.

Even if you don’t have a travel-friendly credit card, it still might be worth it to pay the fees just to pay in pesos. In this case, the standard foreign transaction fee 3% surcharge would only cost you an extra $2.16 to book the flight. The exact percentage will vary depending on the terms of the card issuer, but in short, you still come out ahead.

With a little adjustment, this trick can also be used for purchasing international flights. The most obvious points-of-sales to check for generally include the destination country and the country where the airline is based in. I mean, you can also go ahead and check for every single country out there, but that’s real dedication that even I don’t have time for.

Though most of the time it works out that I get some sort of discount—which can range from a few dollars to over a hundred dollars—by leveraging foreign currencies against each other, it doesn’t always work all the time. Sometimes, in fact, the cheapest airfare is the most straightforward fare you’ll find. But hey, just so you know.

  • Hank1961

    Thanks, I just saved $43.

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      No problem Hank!

      • Tanny

        Hi Erica how can I book a ticket using the ITA codes in hipmunk…i tried using the TYS US X/PHL QR X/DOH QR CCU and QR X/DOH QR X/CHI QR TYS and hipmunk says “we could not find this location”….

        I tried couple of agents but they were unable to replicate the same fare and it is $700 more expensive than the ITA search.

        I m looking for TYS to CCU and back..departing on Dec8 and returning on Jan8 2015

        Thanks in advance


        • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

          Hi, Tanny you may want to take that over to this thread. I’ll help you over there.

  • Ben Cheever

    The title is misleading. It says how to say money on cheaper tickets for plane flights. But then the whole article is about international flights only. Even the page URL says “use-point-of-sale-to-get-cheaper-international-tickets”. Very confusing..

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      I’m sorry if you found it misleading, Ben. You can often pay in a foreign currency if you like for a domestic ticket but it usually almost never works in your favor. Who knows, though, it might :)

      • Wake and Wander

        But you use the example of Cartagena to Bogotá?

        • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

          It seems Ben was referring to U.S. flights only from his comment. Typically, the two cheapest currencies are the home airline currency and home pos currency. For flights in the U.S. this would be one and the same (USD).

    • marketingnewconstruction

      Sometimes, cheaper fares are sold to travelers outside the US. Booking sites use your ip’s location to determine where you are accessing their website from. One hack you can try is to use a VPN service (there are free & paid ones out there) to change your location to a city in Canada. I’ve had success with this hack in the past. Let me know if it works for you.

      • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

        VPNs are certainly a lot easier. I find the airline website the easiest way to go about it but VPNs are also another option.

  • Mitch S

    Just be careful if there are any visas or entry/exit fees you would still need to pay. Sometimes these fees are included in your fare if booked from your home country but may not be automatically included now due to your new found “foreign resident” status.

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      Good point Mitch. We didn’t think of that one!

    • olu

      Can you give an example of this? I can’t think of a single time when I’ve bought a ticket that included visa charges (and have been to numerous countries that require them: Russia, Vietnam, Bolivia, China, etc.)

      • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

        Generally, I haven’t found it to be a big deal. I think Mexico is one that might lump in a departure tax with the flight (it’s not exactly a visa per se).

    • Cook

      I agree that this is something to be alert for. Foreign fees and taxes can be a shock, yet in most cases the basic fare savings easily out-weigh the additional charges. If all else fails, read ALL Of the fine print.

  • Carol

    You also have to be careful, since some sites dont accept “foreign” credit cards

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      Some sites don’t. Some sites do. I’ve found U.S. credit cards typically work better than cards issued in other countries, in the case of Colombia. ᐧ

  • Louie Frias

    So, what those of us in the states booking to another country, such as Mexico?

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho


      • Louie Frias

        OK…so I choose “Bogota” as my departure location…”Mexico” as my destination. That DOESN’T work. Unless I’m completely missing the actual steps to make the ticket purchase work, the departure and arrival cities, if not, a US city, will not permit anyone holding such a ticket to board from another location.

        • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

          It’s hard to know whats going on without knowing the specifics ie airline booking site and what searches you’re running it in. Did you try Google ITA first and specify the currency? The second option is that you just may need a VPN.

          Also Colombia and Mexico BOTH use pesos, so make sure you’re not getting confused with MXN and COP.

        • Louie Frias

          I did go to the Google ITA site, but it only offers a link to “AirFare” search…hold up…it’s in the “Advanced Search Criteria”…let me try that and see what happens…

        • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

          Did you make sure to use the ‘advanced’ version of the search?

  • Raul

    So if i want to fly from Amsterdam to Sydney you suggest I check on the australian website to book my ticket instead of a dutch website?

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      I’d suggest you check both. Or if you want to make it really fun, all of them!

  • Denise Ackerly

    Just tried round trip NY to Puerto Vallarta–2 different trip dates–each was $7 cheaper by using Pesos on ITA than Kayak. A little over 1% savings. Tried Cancun to PV, using ITA was $57 more than Kayak and on other dates, $119 higher using ITA. :(

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      It’s hit or miss but I’m glad at least it was $7 cheaper for you. The most dramatic difference I ever saw was over $100.

  • Kara

    There still would be an eventual conversion fee to consider, though, correct?

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      Depends on your credit card. The credit card I use doesn’t charge me a fee for that.

  • http://www.queermusings.net/ David

    The one thing to keep in mind that it isn’t always a currency conversion that is providing the savings. Many times the lower domestic fares for a particular country must be purchased in that country. The problem that you can then run into is that some do those fares are only valid for sale to residents of that country.

    My advise is to always check with a travel professional that can read all the rules of the “lower” fare. And remember… caveat emptor. If you do purchase a fare only valid for residents of that country, you could be forced to forfeit the ticket you’ve purchase and then forced to purchase a much higher fare on the day of departure.

    • Oscar Perez

      Has this ever happened to anyone?

      • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

        I think its often more the *extreme* exception rather than the rule.

    • lou63563

      “check with a travel professional”?? what is this? 1961? lol. And NO airline will EVER forfeit your ticket on a domestic flight over residency…THEY WANT YOUR MONEY.. and government officials will NEVER come near to you and your ticket i’d know.. im typing this from visiting Colombia. David might think the WHOLE world is controlling at that granulated level of residency, but outside of the G8 i can tell you for personal experience… NO ONE gives a fuck about the way you got an air ticket.. you paid it, you ride… END OF STORY.

      • marketingnewconstruction

        We were booking flights from Lima, Peru to Cusco, Peru. I received a much lower price when switching the language from English to Spanish. During check out, it was stated that this fare is only for residents of Peru and verification at checkin was required. I’m not sure how stringently this is enforced but we took the safe route and purchased the higher priced, non-resident ones. @lou63563:disqus were you able to use resident only tickets?

        • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

          FWIW (it’d be great to have @lou63563 chime in as well) but I’ve chanced it many times. Once you buy the ticket from the airline, most of the staff rarely care to double-check all the time.

          I’ve never had an issue at least.

        • Lu Doan

          Thanks. Good to know. Will try next time.

        • NB

          They do check in Argentina, and I suspect most countries with severe exchange controls and managed economies

        • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

          Yes, it’s very much use at your own risk and by no means perfect. That’s just been my experience with it.

        • arnoldsemmons

          LAN will check your residency status when flying domestic flights in Peru, and they will charge you extra. The only way to possibly get around this is to use the self check-in machines, but this still isn’t foolproof. Sometimes they don’t work. In Peru, you’re better off flying Peruvian Airlines, Star Peru, or LC Peru. Those airlines charge the same prices to locals and foreigners, as it should be. LAN is the only carrier to charge up to 15 times more to foreigners on domestic Peru flights… why reward them with your business at all?

        • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

          That’s fantastic information. It does vary from region to region, and unfortunately most of my traveling has been based in Asia. Thank you so much Arnold!

        • Cinthia Garcia

          Hi @ericamho:disqus, I’m wondering if you could give me some tips on finding a lower fair website from SFO to Chengdu, China? I’m trying to research as much as possible for my trip in May. This will be my first time traveling internationally! thank you!

        • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho
    • Cook

      @David: I think you nailed it! I’ve (successfully) used some of these ‘tricks’ for decades and saved thousands. I’ve always used a Travel Professional for consultation, actual booking or both, and also give them LOTS of guidance. In the odd case in which the agent can book the ticket, but is not paid a commission by some/all involved carriers, I willingly make up any differences. In one case I’ve used the same agent for nearly 30 years. He knows how I want it done, he does it and he has not suffered a dime’s loss in all those years. It works for us and yes, he has also kept me out of trouble more than once. -C.

  • Gian

    So what do I have to do to book at flight from nyc to lima, peru?? Can someone help me!

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      What are you having trouble with?

      • Gian

        I am confused lol how did he manage to get a low fare to Colombia? How does this work? Thanks

        • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

          You mean me. It works because you leverage fluctuations in different foreign currencies to get a cheaper rate. Residents in different countries may also get different prices. Does that clarify the article?

        • Gian

          I tried it, only save a couple of $$ not bad though! I think because at this point fly fares are high. Thank you though! :)

        • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

          Glad it helped! Sometimes its a few bucks, sometimes it’s a lot. Every penny saved helps :)

        • http://kingdomjourneys.org/hughroberts Hugh Roberts IV

          Do you try multiple locations or just for the residents of the country that you’re flying into? If I’m flying on Singapore airlines into Thailand from the USA… what’s your suggestion for this?

        • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

          I would try Singapore, Thailand and USA. There is no limit in theory but I don’t usually have the time for that… Occasionally I’ll run the price in euro and pounds out of curiosity but rarely unless it’s relevant.

  • Dennise Gonzalez

    Wow! Thanks for the info Erica! I just tried your method on a flight from Lima to Arequipa. From the Colombian website the price was 880.000 COP (about 400 USD). When I changed to the Peruvian website, it dropped to $104 USD!!!! Crazy stuff!!! Tested, approved and loved! Thank you so much for taking the time to explain it and for kindly replying to the comments :) God bless you.

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      De nada Dennise!

    • http://kingdomjourneys.org/hughroberts Hugh Roberts IV

      That’s amazing!

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    • Nick Brown

      When you say tested, did you actually use the ticket and they didn’t give you any grief?

      • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

        Hate to jump in: but South America is one of those places you might really really want to be careful you’re not booking a resident fare http://maphappy.org/2015/02/beware-of-booking-plane-fares-for-residents/

        • Natalia

          Some countries do make such differences, but not Brazil, it’s illegal for Brazilian companies to do that. If you find such a thing, please give a shout out at the company’s facebook page so everybody can see it!
          A country i know for sure that states different fares for residents and foreigners is Argentina. But when the search engine transfers you to the booking site (like Lan Chile) it states clearly what kind of fare you’re looking at.

        • Natalia

          Make sure you understand the language of the page your trying to buy your tickets from and read all the info available.

  • Virginia Hoffman

    Is there a way to download ITA to my P.C., don’t want to do it on my phone. Thanks

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      There is no way to download ITA onto your computer.

      • Virginia Hoffman

        Thanks Erica

  • Bushraquraishii

    What about in Canada.. If you want to go from one province to another?

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      You can try but I’d be surprised if it makes any difference…

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    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      Thumbs up

  • Jonathan

    Where exactly would I find out if I need to be a resident of the country to purchase from that location? I am looking at traveling from Oakland to Prague via Norwegian airways and I am trying to buy the ticket from Norway because it is the cheapest…

  • http://sector0.net/ Ted

    Point of sale and exchange rates aside, some sites levy an exchange fee.

    I recently booked an Airbnb in Stockholm. Airbnb warned me of a 3% exchange fee if I booked in my currency. When paying in SEK, the 3% was waived. So even without the exchange rate, I already saved 3%. My credit card charges no exchange fee and converts at market rate. Double bonus.

    Another example: I booked a flight from Gdansk, Poland to Stockholm on Wizz Air (feeling adventurous). The site defaulted to PLN and gave me a better price than if I changed it to GBP, EUR, HUF, USD. Wizz is based in Hungary so I figured HUF might work out. Nope.

    It’s a good idea to try the local currency for a discount. Can be an easy 3%.

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      That’s interesting, Ted and something I didn’t know about the Airbnb website. I haven’t used it outside the States but it looks like they levy the 3% the card holder may incur.

      • http://sector0.net/ Ted

        Out of curiosity, I tinkered with the Airbnb site and discovered in addition to setting a currency, one can also set a point of sale. POS isn’t labeled as such, but you can specify what city you’re in.

        With a weak USD/JPY and using the Stockholm example, I saved a few extra USD, enough for lunch when I land, when setting my country to JP but currency to SEK. Airbnb didn’t charge me a 3% exchange fee, billed me in JPY, and paid the host in SEK. Unsure why there’s no exchange fee because there was still JPY -> SEK. My credit card also charges no exchange fee, converts at market rate, and pays me cash back. Triple bonus.

        The savings become more significant with larger transactions, ie longer rentals or flights.

        • Rob

          Are you sure that it didn’t bill you in SEK, showing you the rate it charges for JP point-of-sale, and therefore removing the 3% foreign exchange step?

          Side note, just did this on my flight from NYC to Stockholm, purchased in EUR (SEK would require some heavy Swedish>English Google Translating), thereby saving ~50USD less $14 in foreign transaction fees and the $12 in credit card fees charged by the airline (waived if US is the point of sale). Not a huge bargain but enough for an airport lunch for 2. Thanks!

        • http://sector0.net/ Ted

          Unknown. I recall playing with my home country and currency and saved the most by displaying prices in SEK and setting JP as my home country. I don’t know for sure if Airbnb billed my card in JPY or converted without charging me 3%. Because it’s a US card, all transactions post in USD.

          When I looked at Airbnb today, I’m unable to reproduce what I did. This time, it didn’t matter if I changed my home country. The checkout screen said Airbnb will bill in USD for the few home countries I tried.

          Displaying prices in SEK still avoided the 3% exchange fee, even though the checkout screen said they will bill in USD. If I displayed prices in USD, the checkout screen added 3%.

  • http://www.angloitalianfollowus.com/ Anglo Italian

    Thanks a lot, we must try! :)

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      No worries!

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  • Saalih Jabarti

    Ok everyone. I found me an unbelievable rate round trip atlanta to san Juan for $2. I want to belive it and purchase it, don’t know where to go from here. The ita site won’t allow me to purchase it directly. Help please!

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho
      • Saalih Jabarti

        Thanks Erica but it seems the link is incomplete. Would you please double check the link and post it again.

        • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

          Make sure your browser hasn’t accidentally attached an extra parentheses to the link at the end.

        • Saalih Jabarti

          You are an angel! Thanks a lot!

        • Saalih Jabarti

          can i contact you personally. i am new to this and catching up with holidays deadlines. i really need help booking the flight in that rate.

        • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho


        • Saalih Jabarti


        • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

          Please see the contact page of the site. thanks!

  • Murika

    Did not work for me.
    I’ve tried several different currencies, including the COP, EUR and Cordoba for NYC to Bangkok/Managua.
    Any suggestions? Has the software merely been updated to capture lost revenue?

  • kc

    The problem is when you put in your credit card info — the airline website changes your point-of-sale to that country.

    So whatever big savings you saw, booking from a different country, are “corrected” when you go to pay..

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      It does not work with every airline, depending on how the website is built.

  • Sam

    This is the 2nd time this week that I am reading this information on two different sites. Long and behold the airlines woo now surely plug this hole.

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      Maybe. But I’d rather spread the love than keep it secret.

  • passanger

    true, I got better deal on air france when booking in france rather than in britain, and similary when booking flight from lima – quito was a lot cheaper when I booked it from peruwian website

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      Glad to hear it worked!

  • Miguel Torez


    So let me see if I have this right, the article is saying if I book a ticket in another language, such as Espanol sometimes the ticket could be cheaper than booking in English and using the U.S. dollar correct? Furthermore, I need to book the returning ticket in the other country that I am going to? This trick isn’t valid in regards to departing tickets is it? For example, I can go to Panama cheap, by booking the ticket in Spanish and leaving from Panama, but departing Norte America is the issue right because a ticket can’t be obtained on the departing just the returning because common sense states I have to leave domestically to pick up the other half of the ticket, which is the one that makes the price significantly cheaper correct? Please let me know if I make any sense haha. I want to make sure that I understand the logic behind this. My e-mail is mt2751@columbia.edu

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      Yes. But it’s by appearing to book in a different location (and thereby different currency). Language has nothing to do with it though most regional websites will automatically use the majority language.

      It is possible to book a roundtrip ticket. You just book the same exact order of flights but head to the Panama site instead of the United States flight for instance.

      • Miguel Torez

        Gracias Erica!

        • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

          De nada Miguel!

  • mostafa

    I got a little lost with this.. can I change the location if I want to buy it from one country to another and pay with my credit card? And it works as if I paid it from the fake country I chose? Wouldnt there be any problem later on?

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      There’s usually no problem as long as you don’t buy a resident fare. The credit card you pay doesn’t make a difference.

  • Aaliyah21215

    I’ve done this for London last year. Even with the 3% my bank charged me I still ended up paying $100 less by using Student Universe UK. I simply googled the UK version of the site and was fine. However, I wasn’t able to do online check in the night prior. I was told to see the front desk. Everything was okay until I got home and they snatched my bags off the flight in Amsterdam. Had to wait 24 hours to receive my luggage. Not sure if it was a coincidence or intentional but not being able to check in the night prior did give me the ultimate side eye. Still willing to try again lol.

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      Glad to hear it worked regardless 😉

  • Luke B

    This has been driving me crazy! So I’ve been looking on google flights for Calgary–Chicago one-way, but the cheapest option is actually to Cancun routed through Chicago (where I’d just leave the airport–carry-ons only). The only option, though, is to book through United’s site, which tells me my billing address isn’t valid for this flight plan and price. It then gives me a bunch of bad flight options/prices. I’ve noticed there’s a little Canadian flag in the top right of United’s site when I first get there from google, but when I change it to U.S., that’s when the good fares go away. I tried not changing it, and got all the way through the booking process, and that’s when it said my billing address wasn’t valid.
    Do you know how I can get around this? Thanks for any information!

  • JeannieMinnesota

    I am an American living in Norway. I would like to purchase cheap round-trip tickets for my son and daughter to come and visit me this summer from Minnesota. Not sure how to go about this if I want to follow your steps. Confusing.

  • http://thebettervacation.com Rekha Rajan

    wow…this is definitely crazy. I have also seen the prices going up if I keep coming back. So now a days I do all my research from my mobile and log onto my desktop to make the purchase. That way the airlines company doesn’t know that I am desperate for the ticket 😉

    • http://maphappy.org/ Erica Ho

      I kinda personally think all that cookie business is hearsay and voodoo science (I say it’s the system just seeing an increase in demand) but I’m glad you find it useful!

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